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Zoë Routh Leadership Podcast

Jul 21, 2020

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Every business has a particular context that requires a different approach to leadership. But there are principles that are true for all. Barnie Van Wyck has led businesses in South Africa, the UK, and Australia and has an enormous treasure trove of experiences from which to draw useful insights. Through it all he is sustained by his commitment to others and community. In this uplifting interview discover his secrets to doing leadership well, in the toughest of circumstances.

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Why you should listen:

  • Learn Barnie’s four principles for leadership
  • Stop trying to save the day and start listening to how you can help instead
  • How to balance delivering on KPIs, fostering great culture, and providing opportunities for team members to grow, without burning out along the way

We explore:

  • The Stockdale paradox as a useful paradigm for navigating a pandemic’s uncertainty
  • The people challenges that come up time and time again: communication, mismatch of beliefs, and a failure to experience growth opportunities
  • What to stop doing to get more done: doing other people’s jobs for them



Books mentioned:

Stockdale paradox in Good to Great by Jim Collins

Victor Frankl’s Man’s Search for Meaning

About Barnie:


Barnie is the Chief Executive Officer of St Vincent de Paul Canberra/ Goulburn, and is on the board of directors of charities and housing companies providing transitional and affordable accommodation.  Barnie formerly held executive positions in public, private and not for profit entities.

A native from South Africa he started his career as a Barrister and after managing financial services companies decided to call Australia, and Canberra in particular home in 2003. Married to a Wonder Woman called Annette and two awesome children, Reon (23) and Ane (20).  

His family has been actively involved in supporting marginalised members of the community since childhood and he has been involved in counselling, managing and arranging charity events, food and accommodation drives, youth camps and coaching among other activities most of his life.  


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About your podcast host, Zoë Routh:


Zoë Routh is one of Australia’s leading experts on people stuff - the stuff that gets in our way of producing results, and the stuff that lights us up. She works with the growers, makers, builders to make people stuff fun and practical.

Zoë is the author of four books: Composure - How centered leaders make the biggest impact,  Moments - Leadership when it matters most, Loyalty - Stop unwanted stuff turnover, boost engagement, and build lifelong advocates, and People Stuff - Beyond Personalities: An advanced handbook for leadership. People Stuff was awarded Book of the Year 2020 by the Smart WFM Australian Business Book Awards.

Zoë is also the producer of The Zoë Routh Leadership Podcast.